I can't take the rota talk any more. It's all very well it having its own dedicated threads, but it simply shouldn't happen at all. It is not within the remit of the forum, the whole point of it is branding, graphics, and the general art of presenting things to viewers. Whilst you could argue that *technically* that includes the presenters, it is certainly not in the spirit of what most of us want to put up with.
I just can't be arsed reading the repetitive posts of 13 year olds with no social life whose day is not complete until they've found out who presented the ITV News weekend morning update, or why Paula Middlehurst doesn't want to work more than she does, or what sodding shoe size Sophie Raworth is.
I feel exactly the same, Phil. I've been a loyal member and moderator of TV Forum for a long time and I've always supported Asa and the other moderators to the hilt, but I just can't stand it any more either. I really do think it's stretching the notion of TV Pres to include monitoring the rotas of presenters. It really is the most tedious subject that could possibly be discussed. They also just don't get the idea of annual leave, sickness, secondment, contracts and freelancing. It's staggering the number of times I've tried to enlighten them as to the way the world of employment works - be it broadcasting or otherwise - but it just falls on deaf ears. But, considering they're all 13 then it's no wonder they have such a simplistic view of 'the morning shift is Simon and Carrie's so they have to present it every day and how dare they be off'. I also frequently feel physically sick at some of the members who praise presenters as if they know them personally. "Oh I've always loved Rachel! I really can see big things for her in the future! She should be on Breakfast with Simon!!! She has just the right personality!!" Eugh.
I engaged in some discussion of all this on TV Forum itself with Pete and a few others and I was told by Asa that I must be only reading the rota threads if I feel that rota discussion is taking over. That was complete bollocks (I read a great deal of threads, and always have) and when I posted a lengthy reply to point out examples whereby rota talk has infected non-rota threads, I've subsequently been ignored. So, I've come to the conclusion now that those in charge are quite happy to provide a forum for 13 year olds to log presenter shift patterns. If that's what they want, then who am I to protest? I do, however, think it will end up alienating the members who've been around the longest. The rota stuff has put off a hell of a lot of people over the years and I think it's finally getting to those of us who've been TV Forum's most ardent supporters.
itsrobert wrote:I feel exactly the same, Phil. I've been a loyal member and moderator of TV Forum for a long time and I've always supported Asa and the other moderators to the hilt, but I just can't stand it any more either. I really do think it's stretching the notion of TV Pres to include monitoring the rotas of presenters. It really is the most tedious subject that could possibly be discussed. They also just don't get the idea of annual leave, sickness, secondment, contracts and freelancing. It's staggering the number of times I've tried to enlighten them as to the way the world of employment works - be it broadcasting or otherwise - but it just falls on deaf ears. But, considering they're all 13 then it's no wonder they have such a simplistic view of 'the morning shift is Simon and Carrie's so they have to present it every day and how dare they be off'. I also frequently feel physically sick at some of the members who praise presenters as if they know them personally. "Oh I've always loved Rachel! I really can see big things for her in the future! She should be on Breakfast with Simon!!! She has just the right personality!!" Eugh.
I engaged in some discussion of all this on TV Forum itself with Pete and a few others and I was told by Asa that I must be only reading the rota threads if I feel that rota discussion is taking over. That was complete bollocks (I read a great deal of threads, and always have) and when I posted a lengthy reply to point out examples whereby rota talk has infected non-rota threads, I've subsequently been ignored. So, I've come to the conclusion now that those in charge are quite happy to provide a forum for 13 year olds to log presenter shift patterns. If that's what they want, then who am I to protest? I do, however, think it will end up alienating the members who've been around the longest. The rota stuff has put off a hell of a lot of people over the years and I think it's finally getting to those of us who've been TV Forum's most ardent supporters.
I just completely avoid looking at The Newsroom altogether these days. The chance of finding any intelligent discussion on there is remote.
I can't help but think that the rota chat is now starting to overflow into the TV Home forum. And I mean more than just the Daybreak thread and the like.
trivialmatters appears to believe that BBC workers are granted access to international channels in their homes as a perk of the job (see Eurovision thread). I SHALL NOT INSTALL A SATELLITE DISH he haughtily announced when it was suggested that such matters were cheap.
I've been looking back at the Wayback Archive and suprised to see that Metropol is well documented, right down to old signatures and avatars. It's funny to look at a thread from back then, and how it looks like nowadays, seeing how the design of the site has changed.
I notice back then that Metropol was a lot more friendly-looking, I mean the content has obviously always been the same (in fact there were some really quite weird threads I stumbled upon) but it had cloud imagery, red and blue, bright colour scheme, a front page, etc etc. Now it's all very self-referential isn't it, with the London 2012 inspired logo and the current theme. Not saying that it's bad, just pointing out how it's changed. Back then the theme fit in with the TV Home/TV Forum design of the day with the squares of alternating shades of blue. Now it looks like the complete opposite.