Square Eyes wrote:Both campaigns are Tory lead, both are hopeless and full of fear. They've got to be irreparably damaged after this.
A lot of irreparable damage no matter the outcome will be to the Conservative party. What began as a throwaway attempt to quell a backbench rebellion and keep Conservatives united could be the one thing that actually tears the party apart - and it will be an amazing thing to watch. I mean Labour can do a good attempt at infighting, but the Conservatives are really turning out to be real experts at civil war. With all these preposterous scare arguments on both sides, Boris and Dave really are just widening the rift in the Conservative party as well as, as Nicola Sturgeon has been noting, alienating a lot of voters. I think what happens to UK party politics after the referendum could be the most interesting thing about the whole campaign.
dosxuk wrote:And at the end of it all, there'll be some press releases about how they're all friends again, how the winners apologise for some statements may have been taken out of context, and how the losers fought a good fight, and how labour were secretly hoping the losers would win. And the majority of those supporting the tories will lap it up.
The "inners" don't want to see Boris excluded, and the "outers" don't want the fracture caused by Cameron taking his supporters with him. Both sides will want to make amends and draw focus towards how little the labour party has engaged the electorate.
I don't think it'll be that simple after the referendum, if there's a leave vote then Boris will be handing the petition to the 1922 Committee within an hour of the announcement to start the leadership contest. If there's a remain vote then the Conservatives will probably see a significant number of Eurosceptic voters switch to UKIP. A leave vote is probably the result that is best for Conservative party unity as most Local Associations (influential in leadership elections) and voters are Eurosceptic and post-referendum politics can be incredibly volatile in terms of party allegiances, Scotland has definitely shown that. UKIP, somewhat ironically given the original cause of the referendum, will be the likely beneficiaries of the referendum either way - they've either won their primary goal or will likely get a load of new voters alienated by the two main parties.