Re: The next big leader?
Posted: Thu 21 Jul, 2016 20.17
I think what we wish for is for you to make your points and opinions without resorting to stereotypes or insulting comments. I wonder if that might happen one day?
Who's going to pay for this? Private companies? Will they fuck. They are reticent about paying the minimum wage, hence their reliance on imported cheap labour. They are reticent about giving good training programmes, delivering projects on budget, on time and to a high standard of quality. They want to make the biggest buck out of the least possible investment.robschneider wrote:We have an inadequate road system... let's get the unemployed to build new roads! We need more prisons to be tough on crime... let's get the unemployed to build new prisons! Hospitals! Libraries! Civic Centres! And then staff and maintain them! We could create thousands of new jobs at the stroke of a pen!
Actually if you look at the polling he has a greater %age support among 25-49 year olds than he does amongst 18-24 year olds. In fact in the latest YouGov Labour membership poll when asked whether they though he was doing well as a leader 60% of 25-49 yo said he was doing well, compared to just 46% of 18-24 yo - that is the lowest out of any of the age groups. All the stereotypes about who supports Corbyn are actually fairly wrong - his opponents claim he is mainly supported by wealthy metropolitan Londoners - when actually he has greater support among White working class voters and London is the region where his support is lowest. He actually appeals to the old Labour vote, as he makes a distinction from New Labour who failed them almost as much as the Thatcher government. And the old Labour vote can make a difference in elections, because a lot of them haven't voted in decades - in fact almost 40% of those who didn't vote in the referendum identified as Labour.robschneider wrote:This is a man who has no real support other than students
UKIP have no raison d'etre now. We don't need a loony right party - the Tories will fulfil that role happily while they remain unfettered by a lack of opposition.DTV wrote:But nobody mentioned the fact that UKIP were down 8% in the poll and their polling numbers have started to fall in recent weeks with the Lib Dems returning to third in some polls.
That won't get cars off the road, they'll all just drive Fiestas and 206s instead.Alexia wrote:no penalties for single-occupancy of large vehicles, no tax penalties for 4x4s, SUVs or crossovers etc.
... which would be an improvementrobschneider wrote:That won't get cars off the road, they'll all just drive Fiestas and 206s instead.Alexia wrote:no penalties for single-occupancy of large vehicles, no tax penalties for 4x4s, SUVs or crossovers etc.
No because that's not a car you dolt. If you genuinely use a van for business, then that's fine.robschneider wrote:That won't get cars off the road, they'll all just drive Fiestas and 206s instead.Alexia wrote:no penalties for single-occupancy of large vehicles, no tax penalties for 4x4s, SUVs or crossovers etc.
I drive a van. Would you punish me for that?
From a green POV yes. But it wouldn't cut the chronic congestion problems we have in this country.WillPS wrote:... which would be an improvementrobschneider wrote:That won't get cars off the road, they'll all just drive Fiestas and 206s instead.Alexia wrote:no penalties for single-occupancy of large vehicles, no tax penalties for 4x4s, SUVs or crossovers etc.