If Microsoft were going to backtrack over the menus/toolbars thing, they'd have done so a long time ago.
Windows 8[.1] is the current edition of Windows, and was the first to feature this touch first malarky. They've made it clear that within the lifetime of Windows 8[.1] they will go back and add the start menu.
Office 2013 is the current edition of Office. The first edition to feature the ribbon was Office 2007. Between there was Office 2010, which actually finished the job in terms of rolling out the ribbon. It's done. People like it.
April 8 2014: The end of Windows XP
I know at least one company that still uses Windows XP on their main machines. I wonder how much it would cost for them to upgrade? Mind you, everyone complains how slow their machines get during the day but that's more a server thing.
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I hope this new "Start Menu" that is due with Update 2/Windows "Threshold" is optional. I love the Start Screen and I don't want to loose it on my PC or my Surface!WillPS wrote:If Microsoft were going to backtrack over the menus/toolbars thing, they'd have done so a long time ago.
Windows 8[.1] is the current edition of Windows, and was the first to feature this touch first malarky. They've made it clear that within the lifetime of Windows 8[.1] they will go back and add the start menu.
Office 2013 is the current edition of Office. The first edition to feature the ribbon was Office 2007. Between there was Office 2010, which actually finished the job in terms of rolling out the ribbon. It's done. People like it.
It'd be mental if it wasn'tmartindtanderson wrote:I hope this new "Start Menu" that is due with Update 2/Windows "Threshold" is optional. I love the Start Screen and I don't want to loose it on my PC or my Surface!WillPS wrote:If Microsoft were going to backtrack over the menus/toolbars thing, they'd have done so a long time ago.
Windows 8[.1] is the current edition of Windows, and was the first to feature this touch first malarky. They've made it clear that within the lifetime of Windows 8[.1] they will go back and add the start menu.
Office 2013 is the current edition of Office. The first edition to feature the ribbon was Office 2007. Between there was Office 2010, which actually finished the job in terms of rolling out the ribbon. It's done. People like it.
You say that, but the reintroduction of the Start button wasn't optional, despite the fact it was just the same shortcut to the Start screen that had been there before but was always visible, taking up much more space.WillPS wrote:It'd be mental if it wasn'tmartindtanderson wrote:I hope this new "Start Menu" that is due with Update 2/Windows "Threshold" is optional. I love the Start Screen and I don't want to loose it on my PC or my Surface!WillPS wrote:If Microsoft were going to backtrack over the menus/toolbars thing, they'd have done so a long time ago.
Windows 8[.1] is the current edition of Windows, and was the first to feature this touch first malarky. They've made it clear that within the lifetime of Windows 8[.1] they will go back and add the start menu.
Office 2013 is the current edition of Office. The first edition to feature the ribbon was Office 2007. Between there was Office 2010, which actually finished the job in terms of rolling out the ribbon. It's done. People like it.
Are hidden shortcuts any good? I don't think so personally. What they have now is more touch friendly.Critique wrote:You say that, but the reintroduction of the Start button wasn't optional, despite the fact it was just the same shortcut to the Start screen that had been there before but was always visible, taking up much more space.WillPS wrote:It'd be mental if it wasn't
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I think the implication is that they're making the touch side easier to ignore when there is a mouse connected. Certainly the new minimise and close buttons for metro apps are nice.
Having avoided it like the plague since my first horrendous 72 hours using windows 8 (resulting in an angry reformat back to 7) I've reinstalled 8.1 Update 1 on the laptop and it is vastly more usable. Certainly the fact that the silly metro apps can now be hidden allowing the much more sensible Windows Photos Viewer to open JPEGs on the desktop is good, as is desktop by default / all apps by default, the right click start menu thingy.
Hopefully there won't be too long to wait before the new version - whatever they are intending to all it - comes out.
Having avoided it like the plague since my first horrendous 72 hours using windows 8 (resulting in an angry reformat back to 7) I've reinstalled 8.1 Update 1 on the laptop and it is vastly more usable. Certainly the fact that the silly metro apps can now be hidden allowing the much more sensible Windows Photos Viewer to open JPEGs on the desktop is good, as is desktop by default / all apps by default, the right click start menu thingy.
Hopefully there won't be too long to wait before the new version - whatever they are intending to all it - comes out.
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Just pointing out that you always had the ability to change the default apps for those files, since Windows 8.0...Pete wrote:I think the implication is that they're making the touch side easier to ignore when there is a mouse connected. Certainly the new minimise and close buttons for metro apps are nice.
Having avoided it like the plague since my first horrendous 72 hours using windows 8 (resulting in an angry reformat back to 7) I've reinstalled 8.1 Update 1 on the laptop and it is vastly more usable. Certainly the fact that the silly metro apps can now be hidden allowing the much more sensible Windows Photos Viewer to open JPEGs on the desktop is good, as is desktop by default / all apps by default, the right click start menu thingy.
Hopefully there won't be too long to wait before the new version - whatever they are intending to all it - comes out.