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Critique
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That's the idea of using generic TOC names to prevent having to go through a massive rebrand every time the franchise changes out the window then?!
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WillPS
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Critique wrote:
Wed 27 Nov, 2019 22.22
That's the idea of using generic TOC names to prevent having to go through a massive rebrand every time the franchise changes out the window then?!
No reason the Avanti brand couldn't stay with the franchise is there? (It wont, of course, but it could, unlike say 'Virgin', 'Arriva' or 'First'.)
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dosxuk
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Critique wrote:
Wed 27 Nov, 2019 22.22
That's the idea of using generic TOC names to prevent having to go through a massive rebrand every time the franchise changes out the window then?!
The rules changed so that incoming TOC's had to either sell their brand to the DfT at the end of the franchise, or return all the stock / stations to unbranded/ generic branding at the end of their franchise. Some have gone down the route of implementing a generic brand, but they're not required too (despite what some enthusiasts seem to think).

There was a lot of froth about how this was definitely going to become LMS with a maroon and gold livery, although I have no idea what precedent they were using to predict that, since only GWR has gone down the classic name and livery route.

At least this looks a lot nicer than the no-expense-spent purple we have over on EMR.
Alexia
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I think LMS or LNWR were out of the window due to the existance of both LNR and Great Northern; plus the former London Midland franchise still being fresh in the memory, and also the mooted open access GNWR effort from Grand Central.
thegeek
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I feel like someone here will know the answer to this: what defines the way a train ticket gets printed? The machine or the issuer?

I bought a family ticket from the Virgin Trains website, then collected it from a London Overground machine. It came out as two coupons, the first being an old-style ticket with Adult TWO Child TWO on the top line, and the second being four seat reservations.

The other leg of the journey was booked on Avanti's website* and collected from a TfL Rail machine. It's on four coupons; the newer verbose style combining a ticket and seat per person.

Also the ticket booked via Virgin says Avanti on it and vice versa.

* actually by Virgin Trains' aftersales department because I needed to change a date. I'm not sure if their call centre was so terrible before they ceased being a TOC but that was a painful experience.
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Martin Phillp
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Talking of TVMs operated by either London Overground, TfL Rail or London Underground operated on National Rail metals.

At my local station which is operated by London Overground, there are two different types of TVM, there are two totem TVMs which aren't linked to sell all TfL products, but can sell a 7 day bus and tram pass and NR tickets. The interface is similar to those used at other NR stations operated by other TOCs.

The other (pic below) seems to be a hybrid of the interface used at London Underground only stations where they sell a full range of TfL products including discounted bus passes and travelcards for those with the relevant Oyster card as well as NR tickets. The TVMs with the full range of products seem to be more busier than those with just the NR ticketing facilities.

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WillPS
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I'm pretty sure the TVM determines how the ticket will be printed.

There was a time when East Midlands Trains' awful collection-only terminals printed in the old style while the normal 'Buy or Collect' TVMs would print in the new style.
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