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Pete
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So, given my iPhone related disaster the other day I am now at a loss as to which phone to buy.

Basically the options are thus

iPhone 4(reception problems / cost have annoyed me)
iPhone 3GS
Crackberry Simply do not like them
HTC Desire
HTC Mozart (WinPho7)

Basically I'm looking for a free phone on a £30ish contract (which is *very* likely to be with Orange, despite how shit they are).

FURNISH ME WITH FACTS AND OPINIONS ON MY OPTIONS
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Sput
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Also don't forget galaxy S, which is well-received.
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Although you may not like a BlackBerry, I'd still take into consideration the new BlackBerry Torch with BB6. It feels very different to older devices, and it keeps a business feel, but has a social touch now. E-mail is second to none, and camera is 5mp, and you get BlackBerry Messenger.

If that's still a no go, then I'd look at the HTC Desire, which many on Metro will vouch for. Great UI with many apps. And you could go for the new-new HTC Desire Z or whatever it's called.
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htc desire hd for £25 from phones 4 u at the moment.

http://www.phones4u.co.uk/shop/shop_con ... esire%20HD

there's something about a "windows" phone that just fills me with dread.

one of my associates also has a samsung galaxy s, which he says is shite because it's buggy and samsung are apparently pretty slow in releasing updates for it.

my contract runs out soon, so i'll also be keeping an eye on this thread for informed advice
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If I was renewing my contract today I'd be looking at the following:

Desire HD

Nexus S

Galaxy S
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Dr Lobster* wrote:htc desire hd for £25 from phones 4 u at the moment.

http://www.phones4u.co.uk/shop/shop_con ... esire%20HD

there's something about a "windows" phone that just fills me with dread.

one of my associates also has a samsung galaxy s, which he says is shite because it's buggy and samsung are apparently pretty slow in releasing updates for it.

my contract runs out soon, so i'll also be keeping an eye on this thread for informed advice
The Windows Mobile OSs of yore were terrible - they were business orientated, but to close an application properly, you would have to open task manager. HTC redesigned much of Windows Mobile 6.5 to make it usable, whilst still being far from perfect.

However, Windows Phone 7 is designed from the ground up - whilst some of the specialist business orientated features from 6.5 have been lost, the OS is much more reliable - and infinitely more easy to use. Unfortunately, it doesn't utilise full multitasking - not that it's noticeable for most.

A good Samsung Phone you could try is the Samsung Wave - it runs on Samsung's own Bada operating system - so there aren't as many apps, but it is slicker. It's free from £20.42 a month at the Carphone Warehouse. For the same price, if you want a phone you can drop, run under the tap, and scrape at with your keys, then the Motorola Defy seems OK too.
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Can I encourage you to add the Samsung Omnia 7 to the list? It's also available on Orange.

It's a Windows Phone 7 handset, but don't let that put you off. I've had my Omnia 7 for two months now, and it's easily the most 'pleasant' phone I've ever owned; that's a bit of an unusual phrase, I know... what I mean to say is that it's the first handset I've ever owned that's a real pleasure and delight to use in so many ways.

The interface is wonderfully stylish - beautifully and intuitively designed, and filled with thoughtful touches. The on-screen keyboard is easily the best touch keyboard I've ever used, besting even the extremely impressive iPhone keyboard in my opinion. The Zune music+video centre on the phone is gorgeous, and well worth the £8.99 monthly subscription for unlimited monthly music either downloaded or streamed to my phone (and also available on the computer a la Spotify, and on Xbox 360). The Zune PC client - which not only handles music and video, but is also the PC/Mac interface for syncing to your phone - is also filled with eye candy.

If you're a Facebook user, the integration is fantastic, and the ability to take a photo and instantly upload to your profile is lovely, especially with one-button loading of the camera application. The camera application, it's worth noting, has a rather irritating bug that means your settings aren't saved when you exit. Irritating, but the first major update - due in the next few weeks - is expected to resolve that problem, and that's honestly the only serious issue I've had with the whole thing so far.

The number of apps currently available in Windows Marketplace (around 6000, versus 215,000 on Android and around 330,000 on Apple, I think) isn't as much of a problem as you might think. The essentials are covered, and most major developers have confirmed plans to develop for the Windows Phone platform. Microsoft has signalled its intent to fuel heavy app development, and to ensure that Windows Phone becomes a serious mobile gaming platform through Xbox Live integration, as well as other gaming apps submitted by general developers, which are being added on a daily basis. 1 or 2 "A-list" gaming titles for Xbox Live are added every Wednesday. Buying and installing apps is easy and quick; the update process for apps is equally simple.

You can buy apps through Marketplace on your phone or via the PC/Mac client; you can also browse and buy music on your phone on the move (MP3 tracks can be purchased individually for 79p or thereabouts), or if you have a Zune Pass monthly subscription, tracks can be downloaded directly to your handset.

As far as the hardware goes, the Omnia 7 also has an absolutely stunning 4" Super-AMOLED display, which is a pretty perfect match for the minimalist, high-contrast style of the operating system.

The 7 Mozart is another lovely piece of kit, but its SLCD display is inferior to the Samsung's Super-AMOLED, as well as being slightly smaller (3.7"); from what I've read, the 8MP camera of the 7 Mozart isn't as impressive as you might expect, but it does have a Xenon flash which is always welcome. The 7 Mozart also has some pretty wild stylings around the back with its aluminum unibody build.

If I hadn't gone for the Omnia 7, I'd have gone for the 7 Mozart - though as it happens, I've bought a 7 Mozart for my mum for her birthday (Royal Mail Track&Trace tells me it's arriving tomorrow), so if you have any questions about either of the two handsets, be sure to let me know and I'll be happy to help.

For now, check out a few reviews for the Omnia 7:

Engadget
Pocket Lint
...and an extremely comprehensive 10-page review is available at the excellent GSM Arena.

One other point worth noting is that the Omnia 7 is one of a range of handsets that supports HD Voice Calling on the Orange network. Find out more about Orange HD Voice here. My Omnia 7 is on T-Mobile, so I can't attest to the quality or usefulness of that facility, but perhaps other users can fill you in on that.
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The Omnia 7 looks a stunning phone frankly but I note it's £30 more expensive than the price that I balked at for the iPhone 4 so it would probably have to be the Mozart out of the two of them.

Blackberry is a red liner though Critique, sorry.
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Fair do's, many just don't like them.

Then I'd back the HTC Desire HD, with the great HTC sense UI, and many apps from the Android Marketplace. It also appears they're good with their device updates.
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Maybe its just bad luck, but I have endless trouble with blackberries running on the Business Enterprise software; or perhaps its that I look after 4 of them that I'm always having to resolve one problem or other.

At the moment its a failure to sync diary appointments and missing outlook folders. Email is not, in my view, "second to none". Its no faster than other push systems, and sometimes slower (I can hear the pings of messages arriving when I send one in the office) - and the fact that it puts everything through its own encryption system is a headache if/when you have a hardware failure.

Usually things can be fixed, but I've had to wipe all of them at one time or another and start from scratch.

I just don't get the appeal myself.

My vote, unsurprisingly, goes for the HTC Desire/Desire HD. Of the three or four pals/family who have taken my recommendation to get one, they've all been generally delighted. Battery life can be bothersome to begin with, but I'm accustomed to charging up at my desk in the afternoon if I know I'm heading out in the evening.

The apps are comprehensive, even though I really only use perhaps a dozen, and the software updates are regular and seem to really value add with improvements, fixes and new things.

Recently installed Hanscent SMS, which makes my text messages look like an iPhone - with the speech bubbles emanating from the picture of your contact. Cute.

On the downside, my phone seems to sometimes drop its wireless network at home lately - and the constant "acquiring IP address" drains the battery in no time. I'm beginning to think that's my wireless router in the house, though, so maybe not a handset issue at all.
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Gavin Scott wrote:On the downside, my phone seems to sometimes drop its wireless network at home lately - and the constant "acquiring IP address" drains the battery in no time. I'm beginning to think that's my wireless router in the house, though, so maybe not a handset issue at all.
Have you tried changing the WiFi channel, usually does the trick with phones and other things [PSPs, PS3s, iPods/Pads], they don't seem to like Channels 1,4 and 13 on our router for some unknown reason.

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