Anyone else finding Cameron's failure to deal with Alan Duncan a bit pathetic?
Duncan was secretly recorded whinging about MPs "living on rations" in light of the expenses scandal. Cameron has accepted Duncan withdrawing the remarks, and has let him remain on the shadow front bench.
How must that attitude read to those millions out of work because of the recession. Although I've not heard the recording, it apparently wasn't said in a tongue-in-cheek way.
Having been made redundant myself for a time last year, an income of £70 a week feels an awful lot more like "rations" than the £1,245.50 per week of an MP.
This isn't a case of misjudged words, rather it reeks of an attitude that I can scarcely get my head around.
Can Cameron really want this type of man in his cabinet - and if he does, what does it say about him?
Are the Tories finished before they start?
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What with that douchey MEP going on Fox News and dissing the NHS (see barcode's thread for the video) all of a sudden it does look like cameron got distracted while his members went off saying silly things. If anything I'd say the MEP is worse because he appears to be tactically shitting on the hard work of thousands of voters whereas the other guy is just being venting.
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Alan Duncan is a strange man. I remember seeing him on some fly-on-the-wall documentary about five years ago, in which he openly advocated corporal punishment :roll:
However, to answer thread title. The Tories are definitely not finished. I honestly can't wait until they win the election because I'm sick of living in what essentially is a socialist / communist (same difference) society where everybody lives on debt instead of working hard and generally does whatever the hell they please.
I want a government that instills a strong work ethic in its people and encourages them to aspire to grow up and be an adult, and take responsibility for themselves and everything they do, instead of nannying them until they're past 30 like Labour does right now :roll: The people will work, and they'll work hard. If they don't, they will fail, and it'll be nobody else's fault but their own. Don't expect credit cards and loans to bail you out. Don't expect to be handed a job on a plate just because you chose the lazy option and went to 'uni' along with millions of other people, either.
That is a strong capitalist view, but capitalism wasn't invented in the 80's - it's been that way for hundreds of years now. At least it was before Labour screwed things up anyway :roll:
If people would rather live in a communist state like North Korea, then they can go and live there. And if they'd rather live in an ridiculously laid back country like Holland, then they can go and live in Holland as well. No one's stopping them.
However, to answer thread title. The Tories are definitely not finished. I honestly can't wait until they win the election because I'm sick of living in what essentially is a socialist / communist (same difference) society where everybody lives on debt instead of working hard and generally does whatever the hell they please.
I want a government that instills a strong work ethic in its people and encourages them to aspire to grow up and be an adult, and take responsibility for themselves and everything they do, instead of nannying them until they're past 30 like Labour does right now :roll: The people will work, and they'll work hard. If they don't, they will fail, and it'll be nobody else's fault but their own. Don't expect credit cards and loans to bail you out. Don't expect to be handed a job on a plate just because you chose the lazy option and went to 'uni' along with millions of other people, either.
That is a strong capitalist view, but capitalism wasn't invented in the 80's - it's been that way for hundreds of years now. At least it was before Labour screwed things up anyway :roll:
If people would rather live in a communist state like North Korea, then they can go and live there. And if they'd rather live in an ridiculously laid back country like Holland, then they can go and live in Holland as well. No one's stopping them.
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Our MPs are ridiculously UNDER paid, it's no wonder, we get what we get. It'd be financial suicide for Head Teachers, Top Doctors, Military figures to become candidates for election. We end up with the dross we have as a result.
As for Duncan, silly person, should have left the demonstrators be rather than engaging them.
Our MPs are ridiculously UNDER paid, it's no wonder, we get what we get. It'd be financial suicide for Head Teachers, Top Doctors, Military figures to become candidates for election. We end up with the dross we have as a result.
As for Duncan, silly person, should have left the demonstrators be rather than engaging them.
just to point out socialist and communist are not the same things, Russia or even N Korea was/are never Communist it a socialist dictatorship. just to point this out
on topic, I believe there not out of the running just yet either, it very likely there could go on to win the most seat in the next election, MP say stupid things all the time, it does not stop them winning.
on topic, I believe there not out of the running just yet either, it very likely there could go on to win the most seat in the next election, MP say stupid things all the time, it does not stop them winning.
While we're on the Tory slagging, does anyone else find Oliver Letwin extremely offputting and get the feeling he thinks he's regal or something? I can't stomach the thought of him running the economy.
"He has to be larger than bacon"
Yes, he always looks to me as if he's actually a comedian doing a piss-take of a slimy bastard politician.Hymagumba wrote:While we're on the Tory slagging, does anyone else find Oliver Letwin extremely offputting and get the feeling he thinks he's regal or something? I can't stomach the thought of him running the economy.
This is a comedy post, eh?Chie wrote:However, to answer thread title. The Tories are definitely not finished. I honestly can't wait until they win the election because I'm sick of living in what essentially is a socialist / communist (same difference) society where everybody lives on debt instead of working hard and generally does whatever the hell they please.
Please?
This country is nothing like a socialist/communist state. And our government sits too centre-right to be called socialist.
Aren't you under 30?I want a government that instills a strong work ethic in its people and encourages them to aspire to grow up and be an adult, and take responsibility for themselves and everything they do, instead of nannying them until they're past 30 like Labour does right now :roll:
How exactly are you being nannied?
Well, that's more down to the banks than the government. If they can make money from lending you money, they will. Not a week goes by without my bank writing to me to offer me a loan. Not that I need one.The people will work, and they'll work hard. If they don't, they will fail, and it'll be nobody else's fault but their own. Don't expect credit cards and loans to bail you out.
Since when have uni graduates automatically got jobs?!Don't expect to be handed a job on a plate just because you chose the lazy option and went to 'uni' along with millions of other people, either.