I'd also say that, at least on Pres Café, everyone seems pretty well behaved - I've only seen a post or two that could really be deemed objectionable under these circumstances

To be entirely fair, summer is usually a pretty quiet period when it comes to TV in general, let alone presentation - for comparison, TVLF launched in April with several significant events/refreshes underway/about to occur. I do agree though - the split is, in my opinion, rather unnecessary and only...

It seems pretty likely to me that Pres Cafe will ultimately "win", although I could see the Ark forum sticking around as a (probably smaller) alternative